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Beretta 80X, announced at this year's SHOT Show, apparently allows cocked-and-locked carry mechanically. However, the manual says not to do it:

IF YOU ARE NOT READY TO FIRE
Engage the thumb safety by rotating the safety lever with a fully upward thumb pressure, so as to cover the red warning dot (the red dot is visible when the thumb safety is disengaged), causing the hammer to decock and rest on the hammer stop.

 

And in red font:

WARNING: Always ensure that the safety is fully engaged until ready to fire. A safety is fully engaged only when the safety can move no further into the safe position. A safety which is not fully engaged will not prevent weapon discharge.

The disparity between the reality and the manual created a certain confusion and controversy.

Here's what a former R&D engineer, now a program manager at Beretta, wrote about it at PF:

As a TDA shooter and a Beretta employee talking about an Italian product (aka the European team wrote the manual with their legal counsel, and they are very safety-minded), I must insist on the decocked position for carry.

That said, technically speaking, the safety has been redesigned from the old gun, and that middle position is an intentional step with an active trigger disconnect, and this gun does have a firing pin block... Do with that information what you will...

Now, I'd really truly strongly recommend each shooter evaluate the safety detent strength and holster coverage before making any CCW decisions, and note our DA pull on that gun is easily in the 5.5# range. That extra length/trigger feedback in the first pull as a 'are you sure you want to put a hole in this?' is a major benefit of the TDA systems for bump in the night, while the modern lightweight pull isn't hurting your accuracy or slowing you down if you're positive that trigger needs to get pulled.

Personally, when I get mine, I'll be carrying mine in the same condition as I carry my PX4 Compact Carry.

Naturally, he had to recant soon thereafter. Users soon found that it was possible to make the gun fire in the "false safety" condition by pulling the trigger several times, or pulling it sideways forcefully.

Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at 06:20 PM | No Comments | Add Comment
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