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November 01, 2024

A tremendous Ukraine talking heads video

Willy OAM (Matt) and History Legends (Alex) posted a video with a surprisignly deep discussion. I am dead serious about it: just about every other video like this is pure propaganda, shallow yapping. Not this one. Its main downside is the length: two hours and a half. I watched it a couple of times in chunks and in background. Naturally, I have a few comments.

The condition of victory: we are too late for recognition of Donbass now. All of the 4 new regions are officially recognized, so now Russians cannot back down until they re-take Kherson.

In addition, Ukrainian terrorism is a problem. If Zelensky or his successor is allowed to sign a piece accord, nothing will change. They will continue to drone the heck out of Russian civilians, assassinate (like Dasha Dugina), send bombs (like Kerch bridge). Just because of this, Russia cannot stop without a regime change anymore.

In February 2024, when Russian soldiers were in suburbs of Kiev, a possibility existed that the Kiev regime would take it seriously. Russian delegation said: knock this shit off, of this is what's going to happen, understand? When the West vetoed it (by executing a top negotiator as a warning to Zelensky), that possibility was closed off.

Corruption: Matt and Alex talk as if the corruption is endemic to Ukraine. But it's not the whole picture. Ukraine was the dedicated corruption statelet for EU for decades. It began when Kuchma was President. The corruption was fostered and promoted by EU and US, top down. From Hunter and Burisma down to the last border guard, the whole society is now fully corrupt. You need decades and a generation change to uproot it. The effort is comparable to what Italy is doing to uproot mafia in the south.

East Ukraine versus West Ukraine: I feel like I'm dragging this high-brow talk down by bringing it up, but there was a great Chad westerner and Virgin easterner meme. It went like this:

Chad western Banderite: Earns money by smuggling and selling stolen goods. Doesn't give a shit about laws, toppled the government on the maidan. Happily speaks his weird dialect with over 9000 Russisms. Dreamed of war against the moskal since the 90s. Ran away from his first battle, is alive. His hometown wasn't bombed. Stole humanitarian aid, bought a new apartment. Shot a child, said it was a saboteur, got away with it.

Virtin eastern Ukrainian: Works 9 to 5 or owns a small business. Followed the law, voted in elections. Learned literary Ukrainian, tortures himeself and his family with it. Didn't want the war, forced to shoug "akhmat sila" with face in the dirt. Fights Russians to the end, his body will never be buried. His hometown was destroyed in fighting. Humanitarian aid didn't come, again. Fired a T-90, hit a civilian home, the judge in Donetsk will setence him for genocide.

And for the coda: Virtin believes in a united Ukrainian people. Chad doesn't consider East Ukrainians to be Ukrainians, or human at all.

Now that I successfully injected shallow lewidness, check out the video. One extremely interesting theme in it was an over-arching one, and the one the duo didn't name explicitly, but discussed in some depth: how comes that Russia is winning, while they obviously have fewer men and fewer resources than Ukraine fully backed by NATO? Yes, the population of Ukraine is smaller, but they can mobilize a far greater ratio of it, because NATO produces everything they need. Russia has the concern of ruining the economy, but Ukraine has no such concern.

Alex in particular pointed out that there was no objective reason why this scenario of crushing NATO victory wasn't realized. It was purely a series of bad decision by Kiev, Zelensky, and NATO. We can speculate that it was largely driven by the debilitationg effects of pervasive corruption. Russia is winning because the enemy is fully corrupt. There is a lesson for America in this.

Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at 07:37 PM | No Comments | Add Comment
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